Just look at my most famous post, where first rate respected top show breeders intentionally bred Merle to Merle. And this goes for every breed in the KC, the AKC, etc. White skin is like albino, it does’t tan, it burns, peels, and flakes after expose to even mild sunlight. I responded to an insult with a question. Why didn’t you do this 10 years ago? The fact remains that your breed is still not tested at ALL and I do not want to know how many unilateral hearing once are among breeding schemes so please do what every RESPONSIBLE breeder does and concentrate on leading with a great example, show everybody how much better you can do and mentor as many young and upcoming breeders that you can get hold off rather than ripping a breed apart that you know very little about. I think you’re sick if you claim to love a dog but think that a 3 in 10 chance of making it deaf because you like just one coat variation is justifiable. frustrated that people comment when they know nothing about the breed. Your ignorance is not an excuse to act like an idiot. Canines today come in many phenotypes, but scientist are more than hypothesizing they evolved from just a few wolves tamed by humans living in the area of China less than 15,000 years ago Because Canine Genome project is complete with 38 pairs of autosomes as well as the X and Y chromosomes. This isn’t me being mean to poor little Dalmatians. They form fewer stones compared to the Miniature schnauzer, Shih tzu, Bichon frise and Lhasa apso. I’ll get around to talking about West Highland Whites too, but I doubt you’ll stick around long enough. Just insults. That’s fresh. Both in the UK and in Germany the sentence was filled with I am saying that they have an extreme expression of piebald on average. They wouldn’t know what to do with a Border Collie, Basset Hound or Airedale Terrier either. Who is the longest reigning WWE Champion of all time? Burrows of wild and albino rats; Effects of domestication, outdoor raising, age, experience and maternal state. I needed a high energy, hardy, endurance animal that could outhike me. Grandin, T. (1989a). http://www.nuadalseurope.eu/eunuas.html, Anyway, I look forward to your further writings, and hopefully a less temperamental (or white-coated) approach to refute other people’s opinions. Thats what makes a good breeder a good breeder. Greenough, W. T., and Juraska, J. M. (1979). It is also obvious that LUA breeders do not JUST breed LUA’s or where do you want the healthy (other than HUA) Dalmatians to come from that are going to be mated to the LUA’s? Breeding ethics consultant for HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumble segment, "Unnatural Selection." (http://www.lsu.edu/deafness/incidenc.htm). People smile for all sorts of reasons, only one of which is to signal happiness. BC’s statistics are brought down by high incidence of fatal cancer (19.8% for BC’s as opposed to 10.4% for Dallies) and relatively high rates of accidental death (8.5% for BC, 5% for Dallies). Understanding the difference one needs to understand the E extension gene and why these health issues plague the current gene pool diversity of the breed. White and cream are different genes. Might I also suggest you read “Inbreeding is Screwing Yourself:” Genet. And it won’t go away until the coat color goes away. Jess recently posted..Tazi, a Journey with the Afghan Hounds. The article did come across as a bit too rough on the breed, but there is still interesting and relevant subject matter (to more than just dalmatians!) I was devastated and begged my family to see what we could do to find the problem and get a viable solution to save my baby. Behav. Not really a robust system. (In press.). http://hattrickdalmatians.com/Colors.html. He who points fingers the hardest is most guilty of his own accusations. Mayr, E. (1974). Now I only did you a favor by entering this into Google and since I was curious about the outcome BUT I am not in the habit of lying to others or myself and have chosen the Dalmatian as my breed for their specific temperament. Breeders like to pretend their dogs live “longer than average”, but they don’t think critically how other individuals bring the averages down. My own breeding brought together BCs from very different registries and backgrounds. The Dalmatian Club of America is a bunch of old farts that are resistant to change. I’m not trying to get you to ‘shut up’ by mentioning border collies, more trying to get you to identify with the fact that singling out one breed over all others (in this post) is very short-sighted. The authors found that each C at rs6449213 lowered subjects’ odds of gout by about 1.3 times. An online source will tell you 12. I could be a hobo who is barely literate, it wouldn’t make what I’ve written any less accurate and your inability to point out a single flaw in the genetics means that you’re probably not much of a Vet at all. Unless you’ve successfully advised someone else to a million views and tens of thousands of facebook shares, then your opinion on tone is really just that. Like begets like: Behavior tests, classical autonomic and motor conditioning in two strains of pointer dogs. If Humans were like Dalmatians, as you say, there would be no genetic diversity found at that locus. I am sure others have appreciated your crusade. It’s a measure of the zeitgeist. Both of them have been decidedly selected as of late for a more white appearance. Neither of these are responsible for the problems facing Dalmatians, being a Dalmatian is the one and only factor to blame. But again, this is of little concern to Dalmatians because we know exactly how to fix the problem in Dalmatians (we do in humans as well, humans with genes which increase the rate can be tested and not breed with other humans that have shitty genes). One can do the same thing with any breeds. There used to be a belief that white hooves were less sturdy than black ones and that a horse with white hooves would perennially be coming up lame. Now, besides Dalmatians NONE of these animals, humans included, are 100% saturated, FIXED, fully homozygous for the gene which increases susceptibility to hyperuricemia hundreds of times! Not making it. Bad idea to mention color without mentioning that fur color in dogs isn’t the same genes as skin color in people. Manuck, S. B., and Schaefer, D. C. (1978). Participation in the OFA/Chic DNA Repository (Blood Sample Required), Hip Dysplasia (Optional) 8. And yet it took nearly 4 decades for the solution to even BEGIN to be accepted in the breed community. When they do occur, the animals generally have difficulty surviving in the wild. He persisted in many subsequent matings and always used Dalmatians and only Dalmatians afterward. It is just unfortunate that some do not move on but they will soon find themselves……. When they couldn’t pay (of course), they thought that they would take her home and bury her while she was still alive. Hirsh, J., Lindley, R. H., and Tolman, E. C. (1955). In more than 25 different dog breeds, a mutation found in a gene called Microphthalmia Associated Transcription Factor-(MITF) is associated with a piebald spotting. Otherwise I write where the muse takes me. that cannot simply be dismissed by “well, MY dog is not deaf or neurotic!”. And used him for stud! No, they don’t need a trainer. NOW that is a point that is not breed related as it spreads across all show dogs and if this point could be altered we would not see half as many issues as we are seeing across the board today. Feel free to go read them. Science 274, 1527-1551. 57, 618. Not using these dogs for breeding or upping the melanin or pigment is key of course. What other breeds are doing that? J. Psychol. I grew up in a family that showed both Great Danes and Briards at separate times. The next dog I will get, may be a dal cross of some sort (this isn’t because I’ve suffered any consequence of living with my dal, but I, like you, would like to see lenience with regards to a little gene pool widening, in ALL breeds) And it’s in your court to do so as I made a post which is an argument and your comments are sub-standard. Behavior ofcattle in yards II. The submissive grin, used to show “I am afraid,” came to suggest that “I am harmless–and therefore friendly–as well” (Morris 1994). Please. The dog is not a good pet for most family situations.” Depigmentation of bronze-colored leghorns born with a mutation which makes some of its feathers white creates weak animals and the homozygous mutant does not survive (Somes, 1979). They haven’t. To me this phrasing suggests you are asking about human inbreeding. Facebookers ooh and aah at them and it’s been said that the incidence of skin issues in these dogs is low; much lower than in dobes, etc. You mention in another comment that 38 years should have been enough to fix the HUA problem. The fact that people CAN create something/bring out a trait does not mean it’s a good thing. Dalmatians are long distance endurance running dogs that were bred for guarding horses and carriages from robbers/highway men. If Dalmatian breeders wanted dogs that can hear, they’d give up the color. Do they still look so unhealthy to you? Instead you pick one breed (and I remain, they are pretty healthy and stable in comparison to some others) and it’s followers and spend all day arguing with a handful of individuals? Did a post about it. ANYTHING but giving up the color. if you catch my drift but i am aware of this and i am a responsible owner who takes every effort to ensure my dog does no harm to anybody else’s dogs. 2. Well we don’t know everything, no one said we do. She’s also not deaf and she is not aggressive at all. We bred our pair and had nine puppies. I see plenty of pit bull friendly bloggers who describe the lengths they have to go to in keeping their dogs in check, the “crate and rotate” regime. Genet. I understand that popularity has gone down since then, but it seems like I don't see them ANYWHERE anymore. “MH-Overall”] as the header. http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIIDGeneticdrift.shtml If their looks is the only reason you are considering them as a pet than you are vain people and I think it shows why this breed gets a bad wrap. I do understand that there is no evidence of God and that there are statistics I’m sure you’ll uproot regarding temperament of Dals (I’m not adverse to stats, it’s part of what I study) I guess what I’m saying is that one cannot always trust the internet (anyone can write here, and as we’ve seen, it can be both positive and negative/ correct and incorrect in outcome) and using ‘Google recommends’ as a back up source probably isn’t the best ‘proof’ that Dals are evil beings, only that they are considered so by some people (possibly, I might hypothesize, by people lacking the knowledge to make educated decisions on the subject) I’ve had a look at more of your blog and you really do raise some interesting points, I agree with a lot of your sentiments, it’s just a bit of a shame that you find it difficult to work alongside people in the sense that you seem very keen to name call and demean rather than teach -when you talk of educating people. So meh, not a priority. Sadly, an AKC Dalmatian Breeder of Merit. Behav. My biggest issue with the article is the images being used in the tags and the clickbait are of Dalmatians “smiling” they are one of the only dog breeds that do it, and they can do it on cue. You still seem to be missing my point: they squint at the sunlight. White flighty hens, flightyness being linked to color? Jess recently posted..Tazi, a Journey with the Afghan Hounds, Jess, thanks SO MUCH for addressing this elitist nonsense. Genetics don’t work that way.”. Everyone needs to stop feeding this troll. Indeed, primatologist Signe Preuschoft believes that the smile traces back to over 30 million years ago and back in time it was used as a “fear grin” by our closest biological relatives. You are right that it is not the same gene that causes HUA in Dalmatians and Humans but none the less Humans are 100% genetically predisposed to HUA. retrieverman recently posted..I can’t have one of these dogs. 2% of new blood per generation MIGHT be enough to sustain breeds over much longer periods than we are finding now. Every breed has problems but what exactly are breeders doing?? "Dalmatians smile and that's the way they do it, by lifting their lips," she explains. They are comedians. I go to great lengths to not produce them and if one happened as a mistake, I would either keep it or put it down. J. Neurosci. You have to train your dogs, but that doesn’t gurantee a good dog, and neither does good genes. Anxiety begets anxiety and this leads to fear and aggression. It’s a much more recent mutation in Dalmatians which distinguishes them from wildtype canids. Tulloh, N. M. (1961). Oh and when I was working with American Cocker Spaniels, the meanest and most obnoxious were always the blacks, blacks and buffs are well known for their temperament and health issues. Even tough it is all in a language that I presume you cannot read you will understand the terms of Bilateral hoerend (bilaterally hearig) or Bilaterally taub (deaf) or Unilateral: http://www.dalmatineronline.de/downloads/dvd-zuchtbuch-2012.pdf And worse, I’ve heard the exact same lines of bullcrap from people in my own breed who produce dogs I would not want to see within 20 yards of a child. -No, she is pleased to see me! This “blogger” is not worthy of anyone’s time. Dalmatians are just the next on the list and they won’t be the last. Once, when she got into the feeding crate out of order, I looked at her and told her, “Daisy, It’s not your turn,” she lowered her head, grinned as if embarrassed and got back out of the crate. I know 2 horses hardly makes a point at all but I have also know some incredibly quiet gypsy cobs that were mostly white & a paint stallion you could have set a bomb off under. And evidently based on your comments you have not spent a minute with a dalmatian. Let me quote you from the CHIC site… Dog breeders have made exceptionally stupid comments on this blog. The first is in regards to the photograph at the beginning of this blog which shows two Dals bearing their teeth in a submissive smile behavior. Never snipped at anyone and got along with other dogs for the most part. 6, 202-204. Like any breed, not all are sweet. ANY breed can be fearful or aggressive. Well, why don’t you claim to be perfecting the breed? So why on earth would we believe self reporting by breeders to a breed club to document a true incidence of deafness in the breed? If on the other hand your breeding junk maybe it is time to look at what is behind your lines and possibly start over. There is also disagreement over whether the association of rs8034191 with lung cancer will hold true only in smokers. So I expect your lawsuit for Libel because I stand by affirming that you are a committed liar if you make the claim that you both breed Dalmatians with the extreme piebald coat and claim to also, concomitant to breeding Dalmatians, put health above all else. The current LUA’s are coming on stronger and stronger by the year so no matter how many people are still out there believing that the pointer can spoil the Dalmatians hips (ah well, some do not learn) they will make their way. And I don’t see any indication that they are one of the “highest numbers of puppies sold by [backyard breeders]” or how this supposedly contributes to the “aggressive trait” they possess. It would be interesting to measure the amount of depigmented areas on the bodies of both normal and nervous pointers and then compare these to Dykman et al.’s (1969) continuum of nervous traits. Posted June 3, 2013 at 7:17 PM And, as the ultimate solution, the healthy gene was copied into the breed. No need to back-cross several times before I like the look of the dogs or the temperament of the dogs or the smarts of the dogs … because the breeds share a lot of similarities in this respect. In my experience BCs are more likely to be aloof or shy than aggressive. The fact that not all of them develop stones is irrelevant; they all have the potential, and medication or not, this is not a benign disease that has NO effect on quality of life. I’ll note that an alternate version of the same rhyme makes the temperament/brain conclusion much more apparent: Four white feet and a long white nose, knock him on the head and feed him to the crows. In this study, researchers compared 854 individuals with gout to 20,872 individuals without the disease, all of European descent from the United States and the Netherlands. . The owner either didn’t care that his dog just attacked someone or was unaware of it. (and it’s not me -haha) Please also note how I can voice opinion without being nasty, I in no way want to attack you personally, I just wanted to join the discussion. http://www.dalmatineronline.de/downloads/dvd-zuchtbuch-2008.pdf. Have you ever met a nice one of those? And if anything we have more mixing of the populations than ever before. 30 years ago?”, Testicular fortitude is sorely lacking in the dog fancy. They have some traits that I love that would annoy others. you seem to like to tar every dal with the same brush. They are always attentive to your locations and even knew when someone was at the door. In 2008, the AKC registered 34,485 Goldens and 983 Dalmatians. Yes, there hasn’t been one popular movie aimed at children starring adorable Golden Retrievers lately. Davis, M. (1992). Why are Dalmatians … DEAF, MEAN, AGGRESSIVE, FIRE DOGS. . This certainly is no excuse today and they defend these standards like they are the Holy. Pointing out that all you’re talking about is anecdotes and opinions is not going to involve data, Catherine, because you haven’t provided any. You ask good intelligent questions. There are very few dogs that don’t have white skin. The Collies i’ve met have not been. The newer version of Homeward Bound was released twice in 1993 and 1996. Processes 9, 255-260. A number of viruses, that are responsible for diseases such as AIDs, feline leukemia genetically function as transposons. Baton Rouge, LA 70803 ALL OF THEM. But I’ll speak truth to tradition and let the cards fall where they may. It’s amusing they have a photo and link to IFAW.org “A Better World for Animals and People” but apparently not BETTER animals for that better world. These dogs have been highly inbred and have multiplied at an enormous rate, and unfortunately they are being bred into our top show lines.”. 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